Video 3008: US Congressman Dennis
Kucinich on Syrian TV, June 29, 2011
Congressman Kucinich: There
are great democratic aspirations for freedom. This is part of this desire
for freedom, which is really sweeping the region and the world. The
government is listening to the people.
There has to be an agreement between
the opposition and the government. When those agreements start to come
together, things will change. I have no doubt that they will change.
But you’re at the point right now where it must… From what I have
seen, the government shows a willingness to listen, and shows a desire
to help the people, and to work with the people to bring about change.
That is a good sign. It’s a precondition for change. You have to have
a willingness. If the willingness is there, perhaps the aspirations
of the people will be realized. The fact that you can have opposition
meeting in downtown Damascus, openly - whether the meeting is open or
not is another matter, but they’re meeting... That’s important.
That shows that people are stretching those freedom aspirations, and
saying: It’s different now, we’re going to meet publicly. This is
what we think. Then, in that manner, people will keep informing the
government of the way they want things to go, and the government will
have to respond. Again, it’s a process. We can’t make any final
judgments on things, but we have to be aware that something is happening.
So I came here because I think that what happens in Syria is critical,
not only for this region – for every nation in the region - but it
is critical to the world. If you see a nation where the people are striving
for democratic change, and where the government appears to be ready
to respond - that is very important.
Any time you have ferment in a
nation. Anytime you have masses of people coming together, there is
always the possibility that someone may have an agenda that is different
than most of the opposition, and that may be an agenda that is different
from the government’s. So one must be aware of the possibilities.
I don’t have any information about this, but it’s something that
is a cautionary thing, just to be aware of, that is always possible.
One must be aware, so that when you see events unfold, you know if there’s
anything… if there is any catalyst for an event that could not have
been predicted because it is like a third party intervention.
It caters to a different agenda.
Congressman Kucinich: Yes,
and so we have to be aware of that, that it is possible. Do I know that
it happened? No, I don’t know that. That is why you have an investigation,
in Syria, that the government has supported, to find out how the violence
I think it is important for members
of Congress to have an understanding of the process that is going on
here - that people are seeking freedom of expression, and are seeking
the realization of their democratic aspirations, but that the government
is listening, that it is not dismissing it, that it is not unaware.
What I learned from my meeting with President Assad is that he does
care about what’s happening, that he wants to respond, that he’s
thinking about the different ways that would be… the best way to address
the needs of the people. And that’s what he is talking about. He’s
talking about the people. He’s very engaged in that kind of a discussion.
Frankly, that’s a positive development. How it plays out we can’t
predict. It is going to be very important that the opposition and the
government talk to each other, and then chart a course together. That
is something that is up to the Syrian people. Do I think that’s possible?
It’s possible, of course it’s possible, but Syria has to go down
a long road right now. But it should go down that road, with encouragement.
Reporter: And not be rushed
into it, I think that is very important.
There is no rushing. You have to unfold…
Reporter: Due to outside
You have to unfold democratic traditions. We’re still working on it,
in our own United States, after more than some 230 years. So I think,
though, that while one cannot be rushed into it, it is important not
to try to set back reforms that can be brought about now.
Reporter: There is a very
unfair image of President Assad in the West and in America at the moment,
wouldn’t you say?
In the affairs of state, it is not unusual for a leader to be in a negative
light one day, and the next day, they are in a positive light.