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September 9, 2012 Clip No. 3575

Egyptian Sunni and Shiite Activists Come to Blows in TV Debate

Following are excerpts from a TV show, in which Egyptian Sunni activist Walid Ismail and Egyptian Shiite activist Mahmoud Ahmad Mahmoud come to blows. The show aired on Al-Shabab TV, via the Internet, on September 9, 2012.


Moderator: Let's just talk about one more thing, since we have only a few minutes left. Let's talk about the citizen and citizenship. Are Egyptian Shiites more loyal to Egypt or to Iran? In Lebanon, Hassan Nasrallah said: "I'm more loyal to Iran than to Lebanon." Is it the same case with the Shiites in Egypt?


Shiite activist Mahmoud Ahmad Mahmoud: Things are much simpler than that. There is this bunch of really stupid people, who are like a woodworm gnawing away at the Egyptian people. I'm talking about the Wahhabis. They are the ones who are responsible for everything – they are the ones who have driven a wedge between Muslims and Copts, and between Muslims and Muslims. They themselves are divided into different sects.


Secondly, I was a Salafi and then I became a Shiite. I wasn't born a Shiite. My father has a Masters degree in Sunni jurisprudence...


Sunni activist Walid Ismail: He renounced you...


Mahmoud Ahmad Mahmoud: You are a liar.


Walid Ismail: He did, and so did your brothers.


Mahmoud Ahmad Mahmoud: You are a liar...


Walid Ismail: By God, they all renounced you...


Mahmoud Ahmad Mahmoud: Your wife is contacting Shiites, offering to engage them in "pleasure marriage."


Walid Ismail: That's inappropriate...


Mahmoud Ahmad Mahmoud: Do you want me to provide recordings?


Walid Ismail throws something at Mahmoud Ahmad Mahmoud, who jumps out of his chair


Walid Ismail: Shame on you! That was below the belt! You're being insolent.


Moderator: That's enough, Walid. [to Mahmoud Ahmad Mahmoud:] How dare you mention his wife?! Shame on you!


Mahmoud Ahmad Mahmoud: I didn't say anything like that.


Moderator: Show some respect! Shame on you!


Mahmoud Ahmad Mahmoud: I didn't say anything like that.


Moderator: That's it, Walid. I apologize...


Dear viewers, let's take a short break. We'll return shortly.


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