Following are excerpts from an interview with Egyptian Islamist researcher Ali Abd Al-Aal, which aired on Mayadeen TV on October 12, 2012.
TV host Yahya Abu Zakariya: It has become customary for the sheiks preaching in mosques to talk, in their sermons and lectures, about "the infiltrating infidel West," "the European-Crusader West," "the abode of infidels and the abode of Islam."
I have presented claims that the Muslims in Andalusia engaged in fornication, homosexuality, and debauchery. Today, if you go to the West and tour the European continent, where there are 50 million Muslims... 80% of these Muslims are beggars, living on Western welfare. In other words, the European pays taxes, and the state gives the Muslim money to buy food.
The Muslim in the West does not earn his daily bread. If he were in the Islamic world, he would die – even the cows and the goats cannot get their sustenance in the Islamic world. 80% are unemployed.
Let me give you an example from Sweden. There are 500 Islamic associations and only one Jewish association. Every mosque in Europe suffers from theft. In accordance with the European law for support of religions and cultural diversity, the state provides Muslims with funding, and the managers of the mosques steal those funds.
At times, you encounter an Imam who employs his wife as the floor sweeper, and then tells her to stay at home.
Then you have fake divorces. A Muslim divorces his wife on paper, and when social services give her a home, he takes his wife back and they rent out the house on the black market.
I used to visit Muslim prisoners in the West. Those drug dealers and rapists would say to me: Tell the warden to get us halal food. They wanted their meat slaughtered in the Islamic way. I would say to them: Even if you were eating pork, it would renounce you. You peddle drugs in the name of Muhammad and Islam, yet you claim that you belong to the pure Islamic civilization.
The Muslims do not rise to the level of their religion. The bombings that took place in London, in Madrid, and all around, the Western image of a Muslim boastfully slaughtering... The camera shows a long-bearded Muslim slaughtering another Muslim, while crying "Allah Akbar."
What do you expect from the West when it is exposed to such rotten ethics? To simply ignore this and absolve them?
Ali Abd Al-Aal: Man, you are weird.
Yahya Abu Zakariya: As weird as the Islamic world.
Ali Abd Al-Aal: I really don't know what to do about you.
Yahya Abu Zakariya: May God help you.
Ali Abd Al-Aal: Give me a chance to talk here. We are aware of everything you mentioned. These things exist, but I don't think we should be wasting your time, my time, and that of the viewers on your listing of tragedies, afflictions, and crimes...
Yahya Abu Zakariya: I did not come here in order to denounce America and Europe. I am entirely with you: Let's bring down America, but first, let's stop slaughtering one another, and then we can attack America.
Ali Abd Al-Aal: Brother, I didn't ask you to denounce anyone. I have come here to discuss relations between the West and the Arab and Islamic civilization. Any toddler in Cairo or Yemen could say all the things you said. This is known to all.
Don't believe that all the Muslims are like that. Who told you that? Islam is full of respect for animals, and even for inanimate objects.
Yahya Abu Zakariya: We used to invite some Islamic preachers to Western capitals. We would tell them that it is difficult to arrange morning sessions for them, because most Islamic students are at school. It's better to do it at night. But some of those preachers preferred to spend their nights watching porn, instead of giving lessons to Islamic children.